Do You Copy That, Roger Robot?
Carina and Martin continue their discussion about AI.
AI creates something new, but it's based on the information which has already have been found and AI put it all together.
Who exactly has the copyright?
One important question is; Could I use AI-generated text, anyway? Listen and find out the answer.
Send us questions to: info AT pik DOT nu, or contact us via Carina's site or Martin's Bio.Link page. You could also contact us on LinkedIn (Carina Ridenius and Martin Lindeskog).
Show notes with links to articles, blog posts, products and services:
- Chat GPT and copyright (in Swedish)
- Christina Wainikka
- Artificial intelligence and copyright
- AI-created images lose U.S. copyrights in test for new technology
- AI-Created Images Aren’t Protected By Copyright Law According To U.S. Copyright Office
The episode (7 minutes) was recorded at 1500 Central European Time, on March 24, 2023, with Ringr app.. Martin did the editing and post-production with the podcast maker, Alitu. The transcript is generated by Alitu.
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Welcome to Presentation Skills Q and A. I am Martin Lindesco.Martin:
How are you today?Martin:
Good. Have you become a robot?Carina:
No, I'm fine.Martin:
You're talking to Martin the robots?Carina:
I'm talking it to Martin the robot.Carina:
Last time we were talking about AI.Martin:
And that episode generated some questions, very interested questions, I shouldCarina:
I have heard about this, how AI could be aCarina:
tool to avoid the copyright laws.Carina:
To avoid them, or to, how do you say go against them?Martin:
Or maybe they should be updated, the copyright laws.Carina:
Yes, of course they has to be updated, but today they aren't.Carina:
So I think it's how do you say evade the copyright laws.Martin:
Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's my thought about that.Martin:
If you're doing a presentation in one way or another and take material from a robot thatMartin:
you have asked them the question, it's you that creating the question.Martin:
But the answer is there, out there somewhere on the net, because they don't make it up.Martin:
The robot can't create something in that way.Martin:
They could fetch information if we could putMartin:
it together in a nice way so it's already there, but then you could say the robot haveMartin:
And then I wonder where do you see?Martin:
How do you say the resources or link to the resource?Martin:
Do you get that? If you do, like chat with the popular openiMartin:
chat GPT? Yeah.Martin:
Do you get that this text is generated from these and these and these sources?Carina:
No, you don't?Martin:
Okay. Where you have an issue then yes.Carina:
You can say that the AI takes and chat GPT takes all the information in a topic andCarina:
puts it all together.Carina:
So the information has already been found.Martin:
But not the reference.Martin:
Not the source.Martin:
No, not the references.Carina:
I read an article and an interview with aCarina:
woman called Christina Weinnika and she's a policy expert.Carina:
How do you say property rights in some way.Carina:
And the question she was asked was can I useCarina:
AI and generated text anyway? So do I have to have the copyright and thinkCarina:
about the copyright? Or could I just take the text or the pictureCarina:
or whatever? And you know what the answer was?Martin:
It was yes.Martin:
Yeah. And I would say that, but for myself I would always say where is it comingMartin:
from? If you know it to say that this is generatedMartin:
by a robot or something.Martin:
I haven't tested it yet, so I'm gettingMartin:
curious to do it.Martin:
But I would probably also generate it text.Martin:
I will see what the robot knows about myself and about me and see what they are saying.Martin:
Like a bio, it could give inspiration, but then I will double check it and triple checkMartin:
it and so on.Carina:
And that's why it's important in this way that you give the right information.Carina:
So how do you say fool around? Because as long as the text is created by aCarina:
machine and it is, you can argument about it.Carina:
But if it's a human being is involved, thenCarina:
you have to look at the copyright thing.Martin:
Yeah, and there are humans that have created the content in the first place and IMartin:
have created the content by asking a question.Martin:
So it's similar to when you do a GoogleMartin:
You create the question but it pop up answersMartin:
and there you have the reference directly to the source.Martin:
So this got me thinking in the future you have to get some do you get any kind of likeMartin:
timestamp or you created this or generated this question and got these answers so youMartin:
could refer back to that or do you have to do the question again the next time you want to?Carina:
No you have a history, you have been searched but could you share it with others?Martin:
For example, if we have now generated about a topic about this episode because maybeMartin:
we have asked the robot what we will talk about, could we then refer to where we foundMartin:
this answer, so to speak, from a robot, no references.Carina:
Okay it's this gray zone, should I say?Martin:
Yeah, the gray area but I see as long the market would be free and we are free toMartin:
express ourselves, it will be taken care of in one way or another so that's fascinating,Martin:
So with this and we talked about last episodeMartin:
also about how I'm using this technology.Martin:
And one example is transcript.Martin:
Yes, so that's generate and listen to our voices and put it together and then you couldMartin:
And I write that it's generated by this tool, all the two.Martin:
So you could get constructive feedback on that and so on.Carina:
But it's also and there, you see, that's a help.Carina:
That's help for our listeners, for example.Martin:
And you have also to say same as it is early stage in a way so you have to be awareMartin:
of that and give it some time also and it will be better and better and talking about that myMartin:
call to action here is to download a new podcast app on newpodcastapps.com or theMartin:
shorter version, the URL, is Podcastapps.com.Martin:
And there you will find several different newMartin:
podcast apps that you could use in order to listen to our podcast and then also give usMartin:
feedback with a digital telegram and send a donation for example.Martin:
And could be reading feedback.Martin:
Yeah, feedback and you could read transcriptsMartin:
and so on so that could be something to look out for.Carina:
Yes, this is a very interesting topic, I should say and we will return to it.Carina:
We have so many articles to go through and read and people have thoughts and ideas aboutCarina:
it and in the.Martin:
Future we could put two robots here or parrots that could mimic us.Carina:
No, I don't think so.Carina:
I don't think so at all.Carina:
But it was nice to talk to you, Marcus.Martin:
Same, Karina. So cheerio.Martin:
And talk soon again.