Do You Copy That, Roger Robot?

Martin: 00:00:11

Welcome to Presentation Skills Q and A. I am Martin Lindesco.

Martin: 00:00:15

Hi, Karina.

Carina: 00:00:16

Hi Martin.

Carina: 00:00:17

How are you today?

Martin: 00:00:18

Good. Have you become a robot?

Carina: 00:00:21

No, I'm fine.

Martin: 00:00:23

You're talking to Martin the robots?

Carina: 00:00:25

I'm talking it to Martin the robot.

Carina: 00:00:28

Last time we were talking about AI.

Martin: 00:00:30

Yes.

Carina: 00:00:31

And that episode generated some questions, very interested questions, I should

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say.

Carina: 00:00:38

I have heard about this, how AI could be a

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tool to avoid the copyright laws.

Carina: 00:00:46

For example.

Martin: 00:00:49

To avoid them, or to, how do you say go against them?

Martin: 00:00:53

Or maybe they should be updated, the copyright laws.

Carina: 00:00:56

Yes, of course they has to be updated, but today they aren't.

Carina: 00:01:03

So I think it's how do you say evade the copyright laws.

Martin: 00:01:06

Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's my thought about that.

Martin: 00:01:11

If you're doing a presentation in one way or another and take material from a robot that

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you have asked them the question, it's you that creating the question.

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But the answer is there, out there somewhere on the net, because they don't make it up.

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The robot can't create something in that way.

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They could fetch information if we could put

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it together in a nice way so it's already there, but then you could say the robot have

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curated it.

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And then I wonder where do you see?

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How do you say the resources or link to the resource?

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Do you get that? If you do, like chat with the popular openi

Martin: 00:01:51

chat GPT? Yeah.

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Do you get that this text is generated from these and these and these sources?

Carina: 00:01:58

No, you don't?

Martin: 00:01:59

Okay. Where you have an issue then yes.

Carina: 00:02:02

You can say that the AI takes and chat GPT takes all the information in a topic and

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puts it all together.

Carina: 00:02:12

So the information has already been found.

Martin: 00:02:16

But not the reference.

Martin: 00:02:17

Not the source.

Martin: 00:02:18

Direct source?

Carina: 00:02:19

No, not the references.

Carina: 00:02:21

I read an article and an interview with a

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woman called Christina Weinnika and she's a policy expert.

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How do you say property rights in some way.

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And the question she was asked was can I use

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AI and generated text anyway? So do I have to have the copyright and think

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about the copyright? Or could I just take the text or the picture

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or whatever? And you know what the answer was?

Martin: 00:02:55

No.

Carina: 00:02:56

It was yes.

Martin: 00:02:57

Yeah. And I would say that, but for myself I would always say where is it coming

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from? If you know it to say that this is generated

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by a robot or something.

Martin: 00:03:11

I haven't tested it yet, so I'm getting

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curious to do it.

Martin: 00:03:13

But I would probably also generate it text.

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I will see what the robot knows about myself and about me and see what they are saying.

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Like a bio, it could give inspiration, but then I will double check it and triple check

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it and so on.

Carina: 00:03:28

And that's why it's important in this way that you give the right information.

Carina: 00:03:33

So how do you say fool around? Because as long as the text is created by a

Carina: 00:03:40

machine and it is, you can argument about it.

Carina: 00:03:46

But if it's a human being is involved, then

Carina: 00:03:50

you have to look at the copyright thing.

Martin: 00:03:55

Yeah, and there are humans that have created the content in the first place and I

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have created the content by asking a question.

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So it's similar to when you do a Google

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search.

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You create the question but it pop up answers

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and there you have the reference directly to the source.

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So this got me thinking in the future you have to get some do you get any kind of like

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timestamp or you created this or generated this question and got these answers so you

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could refer back to that or do you have to do the question again the next time you want to?

Carina: 00:04:35

No you have a history, you have been searched but could you share it with others?

Martin: 00:04:41

For example, if we have now generated about a topic about this episode because maybe

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we have asked the robot what we will talk about, could we then refer to where we found

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this answer, so to speak, from a robot, no references.

Carina: 00:04:57

Okay it's this gray zone, should I say?

Martin: 00:05:05

Yeah, the gray area but I see as long the market would be free and we are free to

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express ourselves, it will be taken care of in one way or another so that's fascinating,

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interesting.

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So with this and we talked about last episode

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also about how I'm using this technology.

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And one example is transcript.

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Yes, so that's generate and listen to our voices and put it together and then you could

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edit it.

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Yourself.

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And I write that it's generated by this tool, all the two.

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So you could get constructive feedback on that and so on.

Carina: 00:05:45

But it's also and there, you see, that's a help.

Carina: 00:05:49

That's help for our listeners, for example.

Martin: 00:05:52

And you have also to say same as it is early stage in a way so you have to be aware

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of that and give it some time also and it will be better and better and talking about that my

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And could be reading feedback.

Martin: 00:06:36

Yeah, feedback and you could read transcripts

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and so on so that could be something to look out for.

Carina: 00:06:44

Yes, this is a very interesting topic, I should say and we will return to it.

Carina: 00:06:52

We have so many articles to go through and read and people have thoughts and ideas about

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it and in the.

Martin: 00:07:00

Future we could put two robots here or parrots that could mimic us.

Carina: 00:07:04

No, I don't think so.

Carina: 00:07:08

I don't think so at all.

Carina: 00:07:10

But it was nice to talk to you, Marcus.

Martin: 00:07:12

Same, Karina. So cheerio.

Martin: 00:07:15

And talk soon again.