For your eyes only

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Welcome to Presentation Skills Q and A. I am Martin Lindeskog.

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Hi, Karina.

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Hi, Martin.

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For your eyes only.

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Well and you don't see my eyes?

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No, I don't but when you're speaking yes, I really can see your eyes

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because if you connect with your voice and your eyes, I can see that you are a bit happy

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that we are going to speak a little bit today it sounds like that great.

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Yeah, I see your eyes also in the way because I have something hanging here on

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the wall like microphones, like a decoration and I got from you as a gift some time ago,

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red microphones, like a decoration do you remember them?

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Yes, I remember so then I think.

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About you and see your smile and so on and you had beautiful singular and where is

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that from? It's a tune, right?

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Yes, soundtrack.

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It's a soundtrack.

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China Eastern soundtrack for your eyes only james Bond.

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James Bond.

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I won't sing the theme james Bond.

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I will not but it's funny with the language we are talking in English speaking in

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English.

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Knowing Swedish sort of yeah and it's funny we

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do a movie titles like in a Deadly Eyesight or you could say an angle it's the translation

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deadly killing Swedish yes.

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And in English it's a bit different.

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In a way and it was some years ago but this is our theme for this episode.

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Shall we say we talked about the handshake last time but how important are your eyes when

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you meet another person? It's important in our culture but it could be

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different how do you feel about this with eye contact?

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Yeah. I have a fear how is it based and so on but I wonder sometimes if you can't

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see why somebody's not looking into your eyes when you're talking.

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Like when you're presenting or greeting but that could be for different reasons you could

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be shy something maybe eyesight it could be something else interesting but I often do a

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notice about that then it's of course when you say when you bow and you shake hands again.

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The multitasking.

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What do you do?

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So maybe at that moment exactly.

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Maybe you don't look so much at the other part

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concentrate on the handshake, I'm thinking Mr.

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Bean there you concentrate.

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On the handshake rather than the eyes.

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Yes, but I tried to see giving.

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Attention also yeah, because I contact you can say it's a nonverbal

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combination between people and some people have problems with the eye contact yeah how do

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you think about that?

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Yeah, as I said, I have this theory that if that would be the case, I'm wondering

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what could the reasons for that? Of course you could ask but you could also ask

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in other ways and see if something coming into that because it's both philosophically and you

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could say also in literature to another where you see somebody's eyes and you could see the

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soul and you see some reflection there.

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But then you have to base it on other things.

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Also in other cultures, other ways you're greeting, you could give hugs, you could

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really look into vice sometimes maybe you have what's the distance when it's getting

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uncomfortable.

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For example, you have it children isn't that

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the children's play be quiet and look into your eyes and see until somebody start

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laughing or something like that.

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There could be all kind of things to think

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about that and then you have in other cultures and countries.

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We have now updated the bio description of the podcast.

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Thank you very much.

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Karina here doing that.

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So for example, I remember when you're greeting with somebody from Asia, then of

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course now in the audience, please tell us how we are doing.

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But then if you have a business card then and see what title is it and how much should you

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bow for that person in Japan, for example?

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Exactly.

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Then it could be hard to watch and look at the same time.

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And it has different how do you say in other cultures it's polite to not have eye

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contact.

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But I think here in our Western world when we

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are talking and connecting this with a handshake, our eyes also gives the expression

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that when you look into the other part that you are honest and have sincere intentions and

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you see the other person.

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And you and I, we want questions from our

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audience in this topic, isn't it so?

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Yeah, that's correct.

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Please reach out to us.

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So where do they send the questions?

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Well, if they connect with us at LinkedIn for example, they can send a message

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there.

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But otherwise we have info at Pik, new info at

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Picnu.

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That's great.

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So until next time I repeat my call to action.

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Download a new podcast app for example fountain and give us a feedback loop.

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Thank you.

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I think we will come back to this topic.

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Yeah, Google.

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But for now I wish you a pleasant week and hear you next week.

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Yeah, and see you around.

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Cheers.